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Problems with digital radios when background noise is present

Posted on June 6th, 2008
Several large fire departments in the U.S. have determined that digital radio systems are not suitable for use on the fireground. One of the most significant problems they have identified occurs when using digital radios in noisy environments. The computer software in the radio that converts the spoken word to digital data cannot adequately distinguish between human voice and noise. The voice is masked by the noise much worse than analog radios.

In response to this issue, the International Association of Fire Chiefs (IAFC) created a Digital Problem Working Group (DPWG) to provide expert input to the National Institute of Standards and Technology which conducted tests in concert with NTIA to confirm the problem and identify potential solutions. The results of the study substantiated what the fire departments reported.

The NIST/NTIA tests were specific to the noises that could be expected at the scene of a fire or rescue incident, and focused on sounds from the following sources:

bulletFire truck pump panel
bulletFirefighter Personal Alert Safety System (PASS) devices
bulletIn-mask low-air alarm
bulletK12 circular saw
bulletChain saw

I believe this problem extends beyond the narrow scope of the noise sources that were tested by NIST/NTIA. Why would this problem be limited to radios used by firefighters and noises commonly heard at fire incidents? Similar problems could occur for police officers using digital radios in the following situations.

bulletLow to moderate wind noise when a police officer is transmitting from a portable radio outdoors
bulletStorm noise including wind and rain when a police officer is transmitting from a portable radio outdoors
bulletTraffic noise when transmitting from a portable radio while standing outdoors next to a busy freeway
bulletTransmitting from a mobile radio in a patrol car while a canine is barking loudly in the back seat
bulletWhen transmitting from a handheld radio in the presence of a loud crowd of people or when loud music is present, such as rock concert
bulletWhen transmitting from a mobile radio during a pursuit while siren noise is present

If you are a police officer or dispatcher and have personally experienced problems with digital radios in noisy environments, please click here to tell me your story.

Links to IAFC, NIST and NTIA documents related to the tests.

bullet IAFC & NIST testing of digital radios confirms problems (May 2008)
bullet IAFC - Portable Radio Best Practices (june 2008)
bullet NTIA Technical Report TR08-453 (June 2008)

Related information:

bullet Why some digital trunked radio systems are perceived as failures
bullet The real difference between digital and analog…
bullet Digital trunked radio system failures

 

 

Boise Fire Says No to 700 MHz Digital Radios

Posted on December 18th, 2007

Ada County Idaho was one of the first jurisdictions in the United States to embark on a cutting edge 700 MHz digital trunked radio system. The City of Boise is in Ada County and agreed to participate in the countywide radio system. The Boise Fire Department purchased more than one million dollars of 700 MHz digital mobile and portable radio equipment with the expectation that the new equipment would provide the best possible communication for its first responders. Unfortunately, the Fire Department staff has determined that the digital radios would present a risk to firefighter safety if placed into service. The radios have not been deployed because of this issue.

Specifically, Boise firefighters have determined that voice transmissions over the digital radio system are usually unintelligible when a VibraAlert feature on a Scott SCBA is alarming, or when multiple PASS alarms are sounding in the same area. The software used in the digital radios that converts voice to digital data cannot isolate the spoken voice from the noise. Voice transmissions are unintelligible when the radios are used in a high-noise environment.

Boise Fire staff conducted extensive tests and determined that the problem is endemic to the digital modulation used in the new radios. The problem is not directly related to the 700 MHz frequency band or to trunking, however the FCC requires that digital modulation be used in 700 MHz radio systems. The only reasonable conclusion is that 700 MHz digital radio equipment is not suitable for use on the fireground.

In 2006, some fire departments discovered that the voice audio from digital radios in the presence of background noise (common to firefighting operations) will cause distortion to the degree of unintelligibility. The International Association of Fire Chiefs (IAFC) have established a working group to study this issue. The IAFC issued an alert to its membership on March 20, 2007. There is no known workaround or solution to this problem as of this writing.

Boise Fire Department and the other fire departments in Ada County will remain on analog VHF radio systems.

The City of Boise Idaho has a population of about 201,000 residents, however the metropolitan area has about 635,000 persons. The City covers approximately 64 square miles.

Please contact me if you would like contact information at the Boise Fire Department to hear this information first hand.

 

Digital Radio Noise Problem: Best Practices Solicited


http://www.iafc.org/displayindustryarticle.cfm?articlenbr=33964

Fairfax, Va., June 21, 2007... The IAFC Digital Problem Working Group is actively working to identify the causes and potential solutions for the digital distortion some users of digital radio systems have experienced in high-noise environments. The working group currently has two task groups working on different aspects of the digital problem:

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The Testing Task Group is working with the National Institute of Standards and Technology to identify scenarios to be tested in an effort to objectively quantify the nature and scope of the problem and potential solutions.

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The Best Practices Task Group is working to identify procedural and technical solutions departments may have successfully implemented to address the problem.


The Best Practices Task Group is soliciting input from users of radio systems that use digital modulation. The task group is interested in the steps user agencies have taken to address audio distortion problems they have experienced in high-noise environments. These practices may be:

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procedural

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technical adjustments to radio equipment

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the use of specific radio accessories that have been found to work well minimizing or mitigating digital audio distortion


To submit a best practice online, go to www.iafc.org/DigitalProblem and click on the “Submit a best practice” button.

Where appropriate, the Best Practices Task Group will forward the practices collected to the Testing Task Group for validation and optimization.

For more information on the digital noise issue, visit the IAFC website at www.iafc.org/DigitalProblem.

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Common Fireground Noise May Cause Unintelligibility of Digital Radio Transmissions

http://www.iafc.org/displayindustryarticle.cfm?articlenbr=33118
 

Fairfax, Va., Mar. 20, 2007... The International Association of Fire Chiefs is alerting its members to a potential issue and soliciting their input to a solution. The IAFC has received reports of firefighters experiencing unintelligible audio communications while using a digital two-way portable radio when operating in close proximity to the low-pressure alarm of their self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA). In addition, other common fireground noise, including powered tools, apparatus and PASS devices, may affect voice intelligibility.

This is an industry-wide issue and is not specific to any one manufacturer’s radios. There are indications that any digital voice communication product utilizing parametric voice encoders could be affected by this problem. The IAFC does know the problem is not related to any specific radio spectrum, as it is not a frequency of operation issue, or a particular communication standard.

Due to these reports, the IAFC board of directors has asked the Communications Committee to form a working group to work with other IAFC committees and sections and other appropriate organizations to investigate and provide recommendations to address this concern. The specific focus of the group will be to:

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Fully understand the facts and identify potential solutions that may be required.

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Facilitate industry collaboration among the communications equipment manufacturers to explore options to mitigate or eliminate this concern.

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Recommend best practices for digital portable radio use on the fireground.


The IAFC is asking you to contact the Communications Working Group if you have experienced similar issues. Go to www.iafc.org/digitalproblem to learn more about the tests you can conduct to provide the working group the information it needs to study the issue and make recommendations.

Your input is vital to ensure that digital radio technology can be effectively utilized in fireground applications. The IAFC fully understands that many fire departments are using digital radio systems with success, but there may be issues related to voice transmission being interfered with or overridden when common fireground noise is in the background.

We appreciate your assistance in testing your systems and reporting back to us.

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International Association of Fire Chiefs

Digital Problem

The IAFC is alerting its members to a potential issue and soliciting their input to a solution. We have received reports of firefighters experiencing unintelligible audio communications while using a digital two-way portable radio when operating in close proximity to the low-pressure alarm of their self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA). Other common fireground noise, including powered tools, apparatus and PASS devices, may affect voice intelligibility.

This is an industry-wide issue and is not specific to any one manufacturer’s radios. There are indications that any digital voice communication product utilizing parametric voice encoders could be affected by this problem. The IAFC does know the problem is not related to any specific radio spectrum, as it is not a frequency of operation issue, or a particular communication standard.

Due to these reports, the IAFC board of directors has asked the Communications Committee to form a working group to work with other IAFC committees and sections and other appropriate organizations to investigate and provide recommendations to address this concern.

If you have experienced similar issues, the Communications Working Group needs to hear from you.

http://www.iafc.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=719

 

 

Digital Radio Test Protocol

Download these instructions (pdf)

The following is a set of instructions to test a digital portable radio for interference in the presence of common fireground noises:

Test A:

  1. Use a portable radio on a digital channel. Please identify the radio type.
  2. One firefighter will operate the power tools listed below at full throttle while another firefighter stands directly next to the one operating the power tool with the portable radio (approximately 3 feet between the radio and the device, apparatus and/or tool).
  3. A third firefighter, in a remote location, will monitor the radio transmission.
  4. Once the power tool is operating at full throttle, the firefighter with the portable radio will repeat, “MAYDAY, MAYDAY, MAYDAY.”
  5. The firefighter monitoring radio traffic will document the audio quality for each test as:

I – intelligible, able to understand the voice audio message
U – unintelligible, unable to understand the voice audio message

Record the mode as:

D – digital
A – analog

Use the following power tools, devices or apparatus as appropriate. We recommend you test as many sources as possible:

K12 circular type saw
Chain Saw
PASS Device
High Apparatus engine idle

If your department uses Scott SCBA, perform the test while the vibra-alert is activated in low air mode (in a safe environment).

Test B:

Repeat Test A using the same radio in the analog mode.

 

 

Interoperability: Stop Blaming the Radio

 by Ronald P. Timmons

An EXCELLENT white paper on the dual problems of communications systems that fail during emergencies

and

the personal dynamics of the failure of first responders to communicate properly during stressful situations.

17 page .pdf: timmonsoninteroperability-2007.pdf

 

A much longer (107 page) thesis from Mr. Timmons on why communications fail.

ABSTRACT

Concerns about inadequate radio communications at the scene of disasters predate 9/11, and have been a focal point of homeland security funding since 2001. Under the umbrella term “interoperability,” grant funding is facilitating the recent deployment of equipment to allow field personnel to patch radio systems together, with the expectation of immediate improvement of emergency scene communications dysfunction.

This thesis argues that there are numerous causal factors for inadequate disaster communications. Communications impediments include insufficient radio infrastructure, behavioral reactions by people in stressful situations, intergovernmental relations, inadequate procedures and training, and general lethargy over the need to institute special operating policies differing from routine practices.

The sole reliance upon technological solutions, without proportionate training and practice greatly reduces the effectiveness of radio patching equipment. Quite opposite from the intended effect, patching equipment, in the hands of those only minimally acclimated to radio system architecture, is likely to trigger unintended consequences of chaotic system overload (by combining two or more busy channels) and sector vulnerability (by combining unsecured general public systems with previously isolated public safety systems).

Our goal is to provide a thought-provoking examination of the entire realm of emergency scene communications issues and practical recommendations beyond superficial technological solutions.

107 page .pdf: rtimmons_thesis_2006.pdf

 

 

NFPA 1561

Standard on Emergency Services Incident Management System

NFPA_1561_Emergency_Services_IMS.pdf

 

A "Must Read" Article

SPECIAL REPORT - United States Fire Administration - Technical Report Series

Improving Firefighter Communications

 

Another "Must Read" Article

NIOSH Firefighter Radio Communications - CHAPTER III: FIREFIGHTER COMMUNICATION ISSUES

 
 

 


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